oh shit. now I feel really bad. I'm sorry.

(and I know he wasn't really flirting. my comment is based in jealousy.)

still, I feel like an ass. why is there no delete button for posts here?! dammit.

i'm confused.

oh. sorry ryan...

you're reading this too?

it's ry-spies again...


i hate it when you delete things so fast because i live in fear of missing something good. which is really stupid. actually i can let it go.... whatever. life is long enough.

Abby Lockhart's HAWT!

Peas,
Baffy

"And her Baffy’s got arch
And her flipflop's all right"

Baffy’s MySpace

you mean in the movie?

E.R. isn't a film
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''(and I know he wasn't really flirting''

how do you know that?

oh.

but the truth about cats and dogs is.

i think i've seen it on various aeroplanes at different times about 6 times.

it's the one where uma thurman pretends to be that other girl with the dark hair who is on the radio so that they can win over the guy with the dog...
the moral of the story being, that if you be yourself you will get the guy in the end when he gets dragged along on rollerskates by his dog into her radio station... or something.

"how do you know that?"

because he posted a blog saying he wasn't. and that I made him feel stupid. which made me feel bad. and then he deleted all the posts.

it's the same as any of us having a conversation with eachother here - anyone else can and probably will make a judgement or comment about it. that's kind of what happens with interent freinds.

and actually is probably what happens with real life freinds too.

oh well.

''and that I made him feel stupid.''
huh?
isn't that up to him?

Ryan read this blog about someone called Rachel who mentioned Firecracker and Laura Marling's reference to him in one of her songs and then he posted a response saying something like: It's so cool that you wrote something about what someone else wrote about me.

So there ya go, that's the lowdown on the flirting.

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awh, he said his music hurts to play sometimes, he's still very in touch with his emotions, beautiful :)
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i don't get it.

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well... the dark haired girl had a radio show about cats and dogs. and the dude called up with a problem about his dog. or maybe he didn't really have a problem with his dog, i don't remember... it might have been something about him stuck on top of a kitchen bench with a radio and a phone...
anyway... one thing led to another and he fell in love with the girl on the radio.
she didn't think she was pretty so uma thurman pretended to be her when she met the guy. the guy fell more in love with the girl who he knew the voice of from talking on the phone and the radio, and not really with uma thurman.
eventually their whole thing fell apart because uma thurman didn't have the personality, she only had the looks and the dude didn't know that the dark haired girl was pretty anyway, and neither did she.
until the end when he figures out that he's been lied to.
when the dog takes the dude for a ride when he's wearing some roller skates he takes him to her, and they realise that despite all the deception and weirdness that they love each other and it all ends happily ever after.

no homeless girls feature in the story, but i can't remember what happens to uma thurman

the end.

Is it really deception? I think to disguise yourself because you don't feel worthy of someone's love is romantic.

of course it's deception!

she got her freind to impersonate her! which was totally confusing for him, since she seemed to have two totally different personalities, when all along she was two totally different people.

wasn't there something to do with shoes too?
that's right! she threw her shoe out the window because he wanted something of hers to take with him when she wouldn't see him (because uma thurman wasn't there and she didn't want him to know that it wasn't her).
and then the dog carries the shoe around...

"she got her freind to impersonate her! which was totally confusing for him"

okay so it's deception but would it be forgivable in the real world?

How was she two people? in the flesh yes but seeing as he fell in love with the person not the face, she didn't deceive him totally, only appearance wise. And considering why she did it, it's sort of sweet.

This place is really getting insane
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she got uma thurman to pretend to be her. so he was seeing uma, and hearing jeanne (?)

it would be really hard to pull off in the real world.

but if it resulted in the whole rollerskates and flowers crashing into the workplace and the true love wins in the end thing... well... it would be nice?

it could be easily pulled off. You meet someone on the internet through a social networking site and start chatting on MSN. You agree to exchanging names, photos and eventually telephone numbers. You talk on the phone, realise you have so much in common yet all the while you've deceived them into thinking you look like someone else. It happens all the time...some people feel more comfortable being themselves when they are someone else. Is this such a bad thing? We all to a varying degree wear a mask of pretence when meeting new people as not to deceive them but to be able to keep that distant for observing and judging if they are genuine.

The truth is we spend alot of life concealing who we are, our feelings etc, out of fear that people will dislike us if they know who we really are. Everybody wants to be liked/loved, everybody wants to belong somewhere. The net has simply accelerated all of this.
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She deceived him because she didn't think he was genuine so it's less deception and more a defense mechanism.

It would however be a bit creepy to send someone a fake photo over the net considering you have stolen someone else's identity. At least Uma was a knowing participant.

no, I think the main idea in the movie wasn't so much about deception. it was about physical beauty. Uma's character was obviously physically very attractive and so was the guy. while the radio woman was more plain looking. it was a suprise of course that the guy chose her in the end...cuz they got along, or whatever. I thought it was a bit of a moral about ya, being yourself, but also...

oh never mind.

there's also that movie with Daryl Hannah and Gerard Depuis (sorry, names might be wrong) where he has such a big nose and gets the more handsome guy to woo his beautiful love interest...but wins her over in the end, just the same.

maybe it's anit-superficiality or something.

I do agree with stoole in a teacup's second last post.

this all makes me think of that Mick Fleetwood story where he fell in love with a woman on the phone...but turned out she was completely being deceptive...bout both her looks and who she was. so it didn't work out. Mick tried to get her to go to therapy or something.

stumbling, you mean "Roxanne" with Steve Martin! God, that movie was so great. I watched it so many times as a kid. I loved steve martin's humor even when I was just 11. hah!

"Once you're where you think you want to be, you're not there anymore." -Tony Gwynn

ya, that movie. it was made in BC. oh ya, wasn't there another version made with the French guy. I can't remember now.

anyways, I thought the message was more or less something about not working about someone being out of your league...looks wise. In real life, however, I don't think that's so true..not usually.

well it must be true what stoole in a teacup said. cuz alot, alot of people hook up nowadays on the internet...end up getting married. I have met tons of people who have.

Ryan flirting?! egads. I'm so shocked...and offended.

ya, right. who cares?!

"The truth is we spend alot of life concealing who we are, our feelings etc, out of fear that people will dislike us if they know who we really are. Everybody wants to be liked/loved, everybody wants to belong somewhere. The net has simply accelerated all of this."

I agree with that.

One of my best friends met her guy on the internet. They've been married 6 years now and share the same birthday. They actually got married on their shared birthday. They call the date their "birthaversary". It's so precious, yet I'm sure nauseating to most readers here...

"Once you're where you think you want to be, you're not there anymore." -Tony Gwynn

"but then I think he cultivates sadness"

Ryan should start producing his own brand of fertiliser

ha ha.

that was funny. good.

I'm not trying to be harsh...just a seeming observation.

ha ha. I'm picturing a big green bag with the word SADNESS on it.

"The Truth About Cats And Dogs" is one of my all-time, favorite movies. I ALWAYS end up watching it when it's on TV, which is ALL the time.

The moral of the story is that you just have to be you and that the world places too much emphasis on looks.

You would be AMAZED at how many people fake their looks on the interweb. So for all you guys who think you're talking to some hawt babe in a bikini on MySpace? She probably just googled that pic.

I yam, what I yam, and that's all that I yam.

so, someone is paying really close attention to what ryan adams is doing online?

interesting.

Ryan (single) discovers blog girl (v. cute). Oversharey-ness ensues! I bet Gawker are sharpening their knives right now.

I just hope at least one great song comes out of it :)

Rachel is cute though, so you can hardly blame the guy.

Rachel is cute???? I don't think she's in Ryan's league of cute, when you consider his past several gfs. She's got a nose on her that just don't quit. (In hollywood they would do something about that).

Ouuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccch.

"Once you're where you think you want to be, you're not there anymore." -Tony Gwynn

Well, look at Jessica Simpson's little sister. Looks a lot better now with that schnoze shaved down, and hers wasnt even as big as that Rachel chicks (which by the way the best thing about her blog is the NYC background, imnvho).

i thought she was cute.

sometimes hollywood cute is boringly samey. sometimes real cute is big round eyes, a full mouth and a slightly bigger than hollywood standard nose.
to whom is jessica simpson's little sister attractive anyway? certainly no one interesting.

on the love and deception thing, i was thinking about other stories i know where the two things go together... rochester with his crazy wife in the attic... i was watching sweeny todd, and that pie shop woman knew that his wife was alive all along, but she loved him too...
and that awful lie detector tv show. those people's marrages really can't survive the exposure of those deceptions, can they? not to mention their jobs. i believe in keeping white lies, we need them.

Author: LoriM 3/16/08 6:45:39 PM
Rachel is cute???? I don't think she's in Ryan's league of cute, when you consider his past several gfs. She's got a nose on her that just don't quit. (In hollywood they would do something about that)
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maybe LoriM is one of the other bloggers that ryan has been exchanging blogs with.

ryan adams is a sneaky snake.

why do you say that?

tho it might be true...don't know.

"Rachel is cute???? I don't think she's in Ryan's league of cute, when you consider his past several gfs. She's got a nose on her that just don't quit. (In hollywood they would do something about that)."

I agree actually. not about her nose...didn't notice that. but didn't think she was 'his' kindof cute...not that I know what that is.

well it's possible he doesn't just 'date' famous people, but I think he mostly does. he's said so many times and explained why.

I dunno. reading his comments, it didn't strike me as a pickupy thing, but then who knows? if he's interested in her that way. I thought he was just commenting on her site, etc.

this all makes me think of that Mick Fleetwood story where he fell in love with a woman on the phone...but turned out she was completely being deceptive...bout both her looks and who she was. so it didn't work out. Mick tried to get her to go to therapy or something.

I know that story. I thought it was funny (well, not for him....)
of course she knew she would have no chance. she knew what he actually wanted.
so she could talk to him for a while.
:)
I would never do that. it is a bit mean. and why trying to impress someone who don't want you and it is pretty obvious from the beginning on ?
but I understand her somehow.

I don't know. I thought it was rather funny and a bit surprising. but the way it was told in the book, it was more of a 'sign' that Mick was doing too much blow! that's how the other band members and freinds reacted. Like "C'mon Mick! Get real!" He was so smitten...by the personality, voice and conversations they would have on the phone...that it seriously harmed his real life relationship with his gf back in LA.

I guess she was clever in a way. but I never really thought about why she would do that and why she did it. must've been for a lark or prank and then the whole thing just snowballed.

maybe she was in love with him!
I don't think it was a lark!

he was smitten by her personality and conversations and then she did not look like a model. bad luck for him.

her personality wasn't that important to him at all!

I'm going to wait for the movie of this thread to come out, because I don't understand the thread.

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Why would ANYONE want to date Mick Fleetwood?

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Why would ANYONE want to date Mick Fleetwood?

yeah that's the question. :)

some people like famous rock stars!:)

Hey, I'm all for famous rock stars, but Mick Fleetwood?

I hate how he blinks his eyes and has his mouth open when he plays the drums.

I cannot answer the question why she was in love with him. but I think she was!

of course it's deception!
she got her freind to impersonate her! which was totally confusing for him, since she seemed to have two totally different personalities, when all along she was two totally different people.

yes it is so confusing!

how did this thread turn into the truth about cats and dogs?

*shakes head*

no no no. assen this is the most you've written so far so...

better not say nothin. but really, that's not exactly it. you'd have to read the story in the book.

she wasn't in love with him! she didn't even know him or hadn't met him. so that's not love...my opinion. I think she orginally called him at his hotel to ask for tickets to a Fleetwood Mac show. people did things like that I guess in those days. then later called again...maybe to say thanks. then they started hitting it off...conversation wise. they had quite the rapore. the way the story reads, it was Mick who thought he was falling in love. and acted thus too. but she never would meet him, when he asked her too. he must've been suspicious. but I guess he was obsessed with her...who he thought she was.

he didn't fall out of love cuz of her looks. just after a while he came to his senses and realised something was amiss about the situation. so he had a detective check it out and then he found out the truth. I don't think they ever met.

so really that's not love. just a weird lil scenario and the book implies partly due to doing too much drugs...mostly coke. so he was being more irrational than usual.

oh. looks like 2 separate..or 3..conversations going on here. no, I think for the girl it was just a game mostly...

Well I think she's cute. Beautiful eyes. And she reads books which is very attractive.

But I'm not gonna get all 'oversharey' about it! No way!!

stumbling I will read this story again..........I mean I read it years ago. :)then I will tell you.

I couldn't even read all this - I read up until stumbling came in and I already pretty much didn't understand any of it.

What?


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basically you have to have seen the movie "the truth about cats and dogs"

and/or have fallen in love with a girl on the radio and crashed into her studio with a bunch of flowers while being pulled along on rollerskates by a really big dog after discovering that you love her... even though she deceived you into believing that she looked like uma thurman when she obviously doesn't.

i think stumbling was talking (or mentioned?) the girl ryan posted a picture of in his blog. some pretty girl called rachel who also has a blog on flikr.

Who is this Rachel girl that is cute? What is going on?


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if i told you the ry-spies would probably have to kill you.

Ahhh - to eliminate the competition, eh? Clever.


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i know, right?

one of the more clever things to come out of the whole blogging experience. aside from "totally bored - the musical".

"totally bored - the musical".


I would totally go and see that - especially if it was written by the guy out of Babybird and Louise from Sleeper.


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stumbling I read it again!

mostly you're right.
but she wanted tickets and maybe she was a fan! maybe she fell in love with him - she talked to him about 8 months on the phone,only for a lark?
it doesn't make sense!
she was intelligent and had a great voice, but she was fat. she knew he would not love her, she knew he wants a blonde model.

but it was mean! yes.

oh. ya, thanks for the clarification. you have the book? (man, when I got that book for a Christmas present once, I was ticked off. had wanted a cd, instead, of that band. but what a great read it ended up being!)

you think it was mean of the girl? well she took it pretty far, when she actually imitated being a maid on the phone for Mick...when he phoned there once. pretending she was rich and that the maid had an acent. that's pretty intense! so what was she up to?! pretty schematic, for sure. so I guess that's why Mick thought she should get therapy. but in the meantime Mick's friends thought he, himself, had gone off the deep end. How could he get so 'into' someone just based on phone conversations and no physical contact whatsoever!

sorry (to the others). me and assen have been talking about a situation or incident mentioned in Mick Fleetwood's autobiography book about himself and the band Fleetwood Mac.

related to the movie and dynamics, fwj mentioned. (deception of identity in romance)

btw, assen, not only that but she ended up having a gov't job or something. she was soooo un-rock n roll! but I guess they had these deep, meaningful, satisfying conversations while all that was happening. and ya, I guess she pretended to be the cliche typical gorgeous blonde groupie girl type. but was the exact opposite.

well I found the story fascinating!

and Mick didn't need a blonde model at the time. he had a beautiful blonde gf back at home...I don't know if it's the one he ended up marrying but...was a pretty serious relationship at the time. so Mick's friends were pretty concerned that he was ignoring her, in favour of the mysterious girl.

yes I still have that book.and yes it was a great read.
and this story was so weird that I still remembered it.
the moment he knew that she was fat and no model his "love" was gone.

what is a gov't job?
I read she worked at a post office.

I'm not so sure it was the moment he knew she was fat and no model...or maybe.

I think he sensed for a while there was something wrong or suspicious about the whole situation and who she actually was. ya, maybe he was hoping she was blonde and beautiful...but then what? he would've left his steady gf for her?

what I also thought was interesting in the book was the use of the word "pulled" meaning....rockers "pulling" out of the audience pretty girls to sleep with later..after the shows. on the bus (or hotel?). but just once, usually! or ya know...it was understood it was only sex and nothing more. At first when I read that word I didn't know what it meant. But anyways, I guess they...those musicians...used that word, then, to mean that. Apparently there was a certain protocol. The musician or band member would give the girl up front that he fancied a certain look, during the show. then later she'd go round or backstage or something. then they'd get together.

well I had a friend who was a bit of a groupie. so I'd watch all that. it was more or less romanticised back then, in those days. you'd look up to a girl who could 'get' rockers...even just to sleep with. it wasn't frowned on and sneered about like it mostly seems to be, these days. nowadays people say 'groupie' with their noses turned up...or down or whatever...and with a tone of disgust.

seems like that anyways.

we really went off topic on this thread!

but he did leave his steady gf! they were seperated then mostly because he loved the beautiful voice on the phone and the imagination he had of Whitney.so I think if she was blonde and beautiful like the pics she sent him he would never have gone back to his girlfriend.

the word "pulled" is not in my book.

nowadays people say 'groupie' with their noses turned up...or down or whatever...and with a tone of disgust.

that is true.(I think)

Maura Tierney be in Troof Bout Cats n Dawgs, no Abby, Abby only be in ER.

Maura Tierney is hawt. Fanks.

Peas,
Baffy

"And her Baffy’s got arch
And her flipflop's all right"

Baffy’s MySpace

Er, wasn't it Janeane Garofalo? her character was called Abby.

yes! dr. abby lockhart!!

assen, it's used in the beginning of the book...and maybe only once. when Mick first put the band together and they first start playing shows, that's when the word is used. they also talked about their 'super fan' that would hang around. pretty much the same page and time period. she was chubby, not groupie material, incredibly ardent and loyal and maybe she ended up starting a fan club. I think she was appreciated mostly at the time...by the band.

it was funny to read about cuz at the time I knew of several women fans of bands or musicians that really fit a similar description. one a PY fan, one a Snow Patrol fan.

anyhoo, ok, maybe that's true about that situation. ya, he was ready to go off with her, which his mates/friends thought was nuts! I guess there was something in the conversations and her voice that he felt drawn to. weird ending to that situation. but then what about when their lead singer (older version of the band) went for a wee walk in downtown LA and never returned to the hotel or the band! completely vanished! turned out he had joined the Children of God cult. took weeks for the band to track him down. so he had to be replaced.

anyhoo....

do you think that happens in real life tho? so much. like in that Cats and Dogs movie? maybe sometimes, but not that often. I do really like Janeane Garofalo tho. But then again I love Uma Thurman and think she's so sexy...in a very European way.

anyways, the girl that this thread is supposedly about..she must've felt quite complimented...to get that cyber attention from Ryan. the blog girl.

I like what she said about her favourite song....that it's stupid to try to nail it down. can change from day to day.

stumbling I will search for it in the book.
my book is old and falls apart......

yeah the lead singer never came back. I'm not religious! it is difficult to understand.

sorry stumbling women are not that sexy to me
and Garofalo I don't know her.

btw you speak like a man

I see. maybe it's my age.

assen, do you think I should switch teams?

(pouts and feels even more insecure than usual. if only I could be like everybody else! kidding. wait...what's that Kinks song about that again?)

btw, if that was Ryan flirting...it sure didn't go very far. at least not there. he's even gone past the housecleaning phase already.

how young are you?

I don't find that word anywhere...I read only about Patti.

well I'm not as old as Priscilla Presley or as hot (oh, maybe I shouldn't say that.) (she sure was impressive the other day on Dancing With the Stars). Ok, I'm gonna try and look it up for you, if I can find the book. oh ya, reading about Patti was interesting.

have you seen that new book out by her sis? Saw it in Chapters recently and breezed thru it...mostly the pictures.

(I have worked alot, alot with mostly guys so maybe that's why I come across like that. I always tried to fit in and almost be like one of the guys...not too girly girly...tho never really been that. plus have alot of guy friends. or maybe it's my Dad's fault...we were always a bit buddy buddy when I was a kid.)

ok, assen, I could not find the bit in the book about that...pulling...as in pulling fans out of the audience...for ya know. recreation after. or whatever you wanna call it.

and also...seems like I exaggerated the supposed Super Fan part. she was never called that. just maybe Martha or something, the very zealous and dedicated fan who slept on floors sometimes just to go to their shows. Fleetwood Mac's when they were just starting out.

I reread the part about Jeremy the lead singer, disappearing in LA, tho. Wow! Hadn't remembered the earthquake part.

Kindof a fascinating book! I may just have to read it again. Love all the pictures. They're fab!

Oh and Patti was the sister and the other one was with Mick (Jenny?) as his wife. I didn't know it was Patti who got George and the others to go check out the Maharishi and all that.

stumbling I have no idea how old P. Presley is and don't remember any earthquake.
I think it was brave of Mick Fleetwood to write about this phone love story with the fat post office woman, it is so embarrassing.

ya, for sure. most people wouldn't want other people to know about something like that, so much.

what I like about his book is...tho he's not a great writer...but it's simple and honest and tells things as they are or were. without a whole bunch of psychological musings, etc.

I was looking at the Patty Boyd bio book the other day too. looks interesting. similar writing style I think. frank but still somewhat discreet too. not a 'tell all' at all.

I would like to read that too.but I think it is only available in English. :( that is not such a good read for me.

yes, I completely agree with you about Mick Fleetwood.

Most of all I love Marianne's book.

this is a zombie thread that just keeps coming back to life

what's the title of mick's book?

my life and adventures with fleetwood mac

I love the poem in the first chapter, that Mick's dad wrote for and to him. funny about the lil balls. lots and lots of lil interesting stories within the big story. and of course it all goes tits up at one point, near the end of the book. all the $ goes up their noses and spent on fancy hotels and travelling first class, etc. So then the big lifestyle change.

Marianne Faithful? she has a book? she sure was pretty in that London Rock n Roll Circus show and vid!

where do you live, assen? in Europe, I assuming, maybe.

we sure went off topic on this thread!

I don't even know that vid. is it on youtube?

Marianne wrote such a great book!do you want to tell me that you don't know it?

and it's Faithfull btw.

you assume right.

I must search for that poem first

ohhh! no, I don't know. but now I'm curious!

The Rock n Roll Circus concert dvd or video that you can buy or rent. it's awesome! Mick Jagger is this slithery, sensual, snake like rock god! It's got John Lennon in it, Yoko Ono, the Who when they were young and new....and Marianne Faithfull. I can't remember who else. It's really quite something! All in a big circus tent from London in maybe the late 60's. Having a lark and alot of fun.

(speaking of M. Jagger, was listening to the Rolling Stones channel on Sirius yesterday. unlike alot of the crap that's around these days...no matter how many channels! they played alot of obscure songs I'd never heard before by the Stones...really good!)

the poem is at the end of Chapter 1.

I did not know that Marianne Faithfull was ever with Mick Jagger!

well, this is interesting:

"...Faithful remarks, "The ony way I could handle being on tour with all these weird people was to treat it as a sociological study." This approach aptly describes her dissection of her own life as well. Faithful is more analytical, ironic, self-scrutinizing and literate than most celebrity autobiographers. Writing with Dalton ( Mr. Mojo Risin' ), she depicts with penetrating insight the world of "free love, psychedelic drugs, fashion, Zen, Nietzsche, tribal trinkets, customized Existentialism, hedonism and rock 'n' roll" that absorbed her energies from the beginning of her singing career as a teenager in 1960s London. From her tumultuous four-year relationship with Mick Jagger through her descent into junkydom to her "comeback" in the late '70s as a punk-rock diva, Faithful embodies rock culture at both its most glamorous and most destructive. A self-described "victim of cool," she is nevertheless a tough (and often astutely feminist) commentator on the underside of the rock 'n' roll dream."

stumbling, do you know anything? everyone knows she was with Mick Jagger, and she wrote Sister Morphine.

actually there are two books available now, haven't read the new one, but will buy it for sure these days.

this quote you've found is true.

do I know anything? maybe not!

ya, I was thinking about this...how could I not know that? well maybe it just never registered...that fact or bit of rock history. I only 'know' about his affairs, romances with Angie, etc. That famous groupie from NY.

well, wonder if she's been a support to Ryan in his lifestyle changes. cuz aren't they friends? wasn't she at some big Art opening he did once..years ago? she could be like a mentor to him.

(speaking of groupies, it was interesting in that Patti Boyd bio book...she was talking about first having gotten with George, and the other Beatles' girlfriends at the time...and how she got along with them. apparently, she said that Ringo's gf was just some fan that ran after him in a car to get an autograph...and then 'it' happened. tho PB never explains further than that. that's why I came to the conclusion she seemed to write in a discreet way.)

I don't know if they are/were friends. but I love Marianne's humor. and she is smart.

is Ringo still together with that fan gf?
is the Patti Boyd book interesting or not?
what do you think about her biography?

Ringo married a Bond girl and they've been married since the 80's

what do I think of her biography? I can't really say cuz haven't read it really. of course it'd be interesting cuz her life has been interesting.

as far as the writing goes, I don't know tho....

sure as with Mick's book and bio, there's lots of lil mini stories within the bigger story. but at first glance, I'm thinkin he might be franker? don't know..

that's a long time for a 'rock star'...Ringo...to be married! cool. there's a book around here I could read...about the life of Louis Armstrong*. just looked at the pictures, but he had 4 wives! even back in those days. reminds me a bit of Charlie Chaplin.

maybe Ryan'll find his Oona, like Charlie C. finally did. that'd be nice.

(*apparently, he was a bit of a ham/clown/comedian like Ryan sometimes is.)

oh, i love the story of charlie c. and oona. she really loved him and took care him and he really appreciated that. i mean with all the women he was with

ya, after all those years of being a playboy he finally found someone to be loyal to. his perfect match, maybe.

tho ya know...in his version and bio, it wasn't him that was such a vagabond or ya know....someone who was always bed hopping. He said he didn't really wanna talk about his sex life in that book and bio.

He was prob also a workaholic so that'd be hard for his wives and partners.

pretty touching in the end of that Chaplin movie tho, when they show that bit of him coming out in wheelchair to get that award...and 'Oona' being all kind and caring. (just thinking about that makes my eyes well up with tears. don't know what it is about that story.) At first I think maybe he tried to send her away, didn't he? I mean didn't she come visit him for an audition or something?