Now available for download at itunes. I was skeptical based on the now infamous thirty second clips, but this is a really catchy tune. The chorus is really addicting. Definitely the best thing he's released in the past few years, and way better than 90% of the Casal-era Cards material. I am now cautiously optimistic again.
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Fuck. Great thread title, asshole. Obviously the excitement has gotten to me.
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"No" single released lol i like it

Yeah it's not bad-the 30 s clips don't do it justice.But then you would have to be a bit of a fuckwit to declare an album as shit if you've only heard 30 second clips of the songs......

the chorus is fantastic

yes im sure we'll have a new Gold or Heartbreaker in our hands once we've heard the full songs

NOT VERY GOOD.

"oh mickey, i love you. " - Melancholyjen
"the language you use reflects an attitude to women that i don't find appealing " - Ferris Wheel Junkie
"doe sit juts eman a wedding" - Scummy Man
"I would have phone sex with mickey" - Kjoyoho

I don't want a new gold or heartbreaker.They've been done.

FOR SALE

mp3 of New ryan adams single "no"

cost me 79p but will consider offers.

"oh mickey, i love you. " - Melancholyjen
"the language you use reflects an attitude to women that i don't find appealing " - Ferris Wheel Junkie
"doe sit juts eman a wedding" - Scummy Man
"I would have phone sex with mickey" - Kjoyoho

oh shut up bilo... if you're happy about it then someone who isn't shouldn't bother you. little passive aggressive bullshit.



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

Kev, do you scroll around on here just looking to call people out and stir it up?

Mark me down as a fuckwit.

"Kev, do you scroll around on here just looking to call people out and stir it up?"

it's called trolling. and i've not done it to you in a while.

i have so many styles.



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

don't troll the troll



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

Do I have to pay 79p to hear it? Yeh, maybe not.
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Fuck iTunes. That shit aint slowin' down my PC no more. Also, there is no way I'm going to pay anything for a song that's on an album I've already purchased just so I can hear it sooner. Smart marketing Mr. Adams.

Besides you aren't supposed to get 'buyer's remorse' until after you've received the product. Why jump the gun?

"At least the package is really cool."

smarten up NOW or I get pro-Active! on your cyber ass! do you understand?!

"it's called trolling. and i've not done it to you in a while."

This is true only because I don't write on here much these days... I'm quite sure if I did, you'd find me!

you found me, oh troller of trolls



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

somebody on RAA compared the new song as "awesome...sort of foo fighters sounding"

WTF.

somebody on RAA compared the new song as "awesome...sort of foo fighters sounding"

ugh, I was just about to buy it, too

Sounds pretty damn good to me. I agree about the chorus being fantastic. I dig the verse riff as well.

Makes sense for this to be released on iTunes as a single. I have a friend who works for the local indie rock station and she informed me that they received a promo copy of this song today. They're gonna play it around noon for the first time.

pushy i will email it to you.

i apologise in advance

"oh mickey, i love you. " - Melancholyjen
"the language you use reflects an attitude to women that i don't find appealing " - Ferris Wheel Junkie
"doe sit juts eman a wedding" - Scummy Man
"I would have phone sex with mickey" - Kjoyoho

how can we hear before we buy?

justinco@ufl.edu

Please???

Hey dickbreath, buy it yourself.




"haha nope will smith" - chavli

dickbreath huh?

I'm at work. I don't want to buy it on my work computer... does that register with you, cuntmuscle?

i need to download this before i stream the 30 second sample. if i like it, ill stream the sample.

if i like the sample, i will then consider buying the track.

Let me say this, the name cuntmuscle is underused. I think the first time I ever heard this it came out Ari Gold's mouth.


"Is it too soon after 9/11 to wear pleats?"

park the car butt breath.

lol @ cuntmuscle!
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if someone wants to send. wouldn't it be nice?

i just sent you the song.


kidding. i signed you up for the actualbabieshavingsex email newsletter. i took a guess at your name being Johannes Anderson. enjoy.



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

fuck you .org

"pushy i will email it to you.

i apologise in advance "

Ta.
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Isn't there some cool hipster guy out there who has a blog that has updated the track to his page yet?

no cool hipster guy would put this shit on his blog in the first place.

"isnt there some violent racist that has the emancipation proclamation tattood on his back by now?"

hipsters:
a) have blogs
b) dont listen to ryan adams

oh ok well perhaps 'hipster' is the wrong word - someone like that steam engine blog guy

that guy is probably actually too cool - in a nonironic way - to listen to this song either

considering he put "Destroyers" up and loves RA I'd say it's coming very soon... I just figured there were others too

Almost time for the work day to be up, monkey! Pretty soon you'll be able to find it yourself!!




"haha nope will smith" - chavli

awe there's my favorite serial killer! I didn't think you'd chime in after everyone enjoyed my stupid/immature name-calling word more than yours

and I already 'found' the song you clown... it's on itunes OMG!!

i;m confused i thought once i heard the whole song it would stop sucking

just listened to the whole song.

loved it.

that is all.

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'I love 29, but I never listen to it unless I'm in the bath'

Rinda!

Would anyone mind sending me a copy? Email's in my profile.
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Is Destroyers from III/IV too? I've heard that.

What's "no" like? mickey? pushy?

Mickey never sent it to me in the end. He's clearly doing it for my benefit.
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Hahaha
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"Mickey never sent it to me in the end."

Is that how they're describing it nowadays?
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Doug's Discs

downloading this now

kinda nervous

"Is that how they're describing it nowadays?"

Well I'm not gonna bend over backwards screaming for him to give it to me.


Ahem...
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"Would anyone mind sending me a copy? Email's in my profile."

Watch out asking for something like this! I did the same b/c I'm at work and got attacked by a cuntmuscle! Beware of Jack the jerkoff ripper...

just go to a music blog aggregator and type in 'ryan adams'

it's very readily available on music blogs

a cuntmuscle?


is this fistula-related?

"is this fistula-related?"

No, it's just slang for a dbag loser :-)

second listen now

trying to be swayed from 'it's ok' but not trying too hard for fear my opinion will roll right downhill

regardless of what I think of it, though, it isn't likely representative of the entire release and I'm glad to have new ryan to chew on

someone here said 'I have to have all his music regardless' or something to that effect and I agree 100%

interesting reading about 'true fans' http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php

"cemetery hill" is on the Uk pre-order now...it sounds great.

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'I love 29, but I never listen to it unless I'm in the bath'

Rinda!

where EL??i checked hypemachine to no avail

Cemetery Hill sounds great indeed. Local recordstore. Local recordstore.

I'll email you, punky

man. I don't wanna listen to any til the release date. I can't hold that out without just a snippet. Ah... i hate to be redundant... but I will be.
Can anyone sell this poor sap the single...

ellgasm7883@hotmail.com

If you do, you'll have good like for 29 days.

-Ingmar

Where can you hear Cemetary Hill?
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you can listen to a preview of it on itunes

Any kind fan, either of the single, s'il vous plait.

choochoocharlie81@gmail.com

(and so it's on the up-and-up, I already pre-ordered the vinyl)

Streaming here.

It's certainly not terrible. It's just a fairly boring rock song.
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"Mickey never sent it to me in the end."

i sent it to your hotmail mate. the silly jesus one....

"oh mickey, i love you. " - Melancholyjen
"the language you use reflects an attitude to women that i don't find appealing " - Ferris Wheel Junkie
"doe sit juts eman a wedding" - Scummy Man
"I would have phone sex with mickey" - Kjoyoho

Ah! My hotmail obviously hates you as it was in the junk mail. Thanks!
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Why don't you cheap cunts just pay the 79p

Firstly, why would I pay for an album and then pay for one of the songs on top of that. Secondly, why would I pay money for a song that, in all likelihood, I won't like.
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On second thoughts im not bothering to argue, I like this site, I just get incredibly bored with reading the unequivocal, never-ending 'I hate Ryan' nonsense.. I dont know why you all waste the energy

why WE waste the energy? you're the one that keeps coming back expecting something different.

i feel basically the same way about this as i do about most songs on cardinology. boring and slightly unpleasant melodies, just plain bad songwriting.

the instruments here sound pretty good. definitely sounds like it had a curtain of lights behind it. but that doesn't make the song any good.

if it weren't ryan, i'd have turned it off about halfway through probably. seems to be the way i feel about all of his recent stuff.

everyone tries to say that if you dislike the new stuff, that you're just stuck on the old style. but i liked all of his styles before cardinology, et wasn't nearly as impressive as anything before it, but it wasn't all bad. but since then nothing has been remotely good. i listen to lots of styles/genres and frankly, this just sucks. it's not the worst, but there's very little good about it. and no one would give it a second thought if it weren't ryan's.



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

Yeah, this song sucks :-( I really tried too

i'm still gonna try on the album because i like some of the songs on it. i love breakdown even though in the 30 second clip it sounds like he fucked up the vox. i like typecast and a few others, so im hoping to gleam together at least a viable ep-sized playlist from the release.

but this song is just plain boring. not even fun to listen to.



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

I agree with kev. I didn't like Easy Tiger but it did at least have the sense of some (some, definitely not all) good songs being ruined by production, arrangements and vocal takes that I didn't care for at all.

Whereas from Cardinology on...I'm not a fan of the songwriting (or arrangements, or vocal takes etc. etc.)




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comma police
I've given all I can
It's not enough
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boring and slightly unpleasant melodies, just plain bad songwriting.

yup. wish it was otherwise. loved everything the guy did ever since i first heard heartbreaker.. upto easy tiger. cardinology is the first and only album i dont own. i bet he still has some treasures in the vault (Blackhole?).. i remember quite a few messageboard posts of him having written a new album or two. maybe all those goofy internet albums got the best of em and has he forgotten to write a real tune. still excited about the new solo material tho. according to facebook that stuff has already been recorded, so maybe we can expect something early next year....

Totally agree that the songwriting shines through the questionable production on ET. I tired of the proper record a few weeks after its release, but have listened to the alternate Avatar Studios version fairly regularly in the past few years. "Goodnight Rose", in particular, really comes to life on that version.

Cardinology, though, seemed to represent something of a dead-end songwriting wise. I liked some of the stuff (Born Into A Light, Stop & Crossed Out Name, in particular), but thought the majority of it was really perfunctory and unmemorable. At the risk of sounding like the ranting theater line professor in "Annie Hall," it really seemed like Ryan had no idea what he wanted to say or write. Or, more disconcertingly, just ran out of some vast storehouse of unrecorded tunes that he'd been hoarding, was forced to write new stuff, and realized he'd kinda' forgotten how. It felt like an unsuccessful mimicking of his own established style, especially in the sense that the lyrics so heavy handedly (often literally) articulated themes and emotions that had been expressed in a really subtle and poetic way in earlier work.

I love the vast majority of Ryan's catalog and actually want to see him mature and progress. To me, though, Cardinology was almost the antithesis of that. I certainly won't pretend to know what he was thinking or shooting for, but - as a listener - it sounded like he was consciously trying to write a "Ryan Adams record" when he didn't want to instead of just writing something that he felt passionately about at the time. In that sense, I think Orion (where his enthusiasm was clearly evident) was a much better record.
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I almost forgot to say: The Cardinology bonus track, "Memory Lane" is one of my all time favorite Ryan Adams tunes. I LOVE that song. Does anyone know when that was written or if it was rumored to appear on an earlier heretofore record/session? Answeringbell hasn't updated since 07, so I can't check there.
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on good songwriting shining thru; Go Easy in stripped down form is a good example as well:

are you guys still discussing Cardinology?

Well, if that cliche about 'the journey' being more important than 'the destination' you could easily make a case that both ET and Clogy represented destinations - a place that Ryan thought he wanted to be, but a place that eventually became dull and predictable. Of course his whole change in lifestyle has some bearing on all this, which isn't to say he needs to get back to drinking and speedballs, but rediscover what fueled his enthusiasm for music in the first place. I don't think that ever goes away. I might get lost, but it's always there. Here's hoping anyway.

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Yeah, that "Go Easy" is fucking awesome. The versions of both "Go Easy" and, to a lesser degree, "Let Us Down Easy" on the "Hope" demo record are also really amazing. It'd be really cool if the upcoming solo tour resulted in him playing some of the Cardinology songs in a stripped down, acoustic style. Perhaps I'd enjoy a lot of them more if I heard him play them in that style..
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Man, look how far back his hairline goes!
This may be the problem, so let us suppose
that a thick chunk of alt-country hair in the sink drain each day
causes him musically to go the other way
gone is the alt-country, receding like his hair
usher in the metal and the Easy Tiger snare
For one day the man will be bald as Minor Threat
So musically, we should just take what we can get

critcizing his music is one thing, but laughing at his hairline is uncalled for. How's the Casal bio coming anyway?

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Gharland supports tim crimson for mod. TC in ten-oh!

Poor Gharland, lost to the snows of Canada, but this isn't The Band
No quiet dignity, no beards, no Dylan's helping hand
Only a keyboard and a screen to hide behind
and a lush green .org to speak his mind
But has he formed a presence that congeals as one?
Is he a nice guy? A whiner? Is he Kjoy's bastard son?
A troll? A fanboy? A sensible man?
It seems as if Gharland hasn't taken his stand
Not as funny as Willie, not as nice as Amy G
Not as popular as Keef or as clever as me
We know his name from his thousands of posts
But do we know what Gharland represents most?
I guess every board needs a Scotty Pippen or Bob Weir
Someone whose name you know but whose presence isn't clear
That dude you let into your party but you're not sure why
Congrats, Ghar, you're that guy

PS I'm jokin', you're cool with me
it's just that getting mad at hairline jokes makes us less free
For here in American we can say what we will
and in this case free speech is what Ghar tries to kill

poor happyhead
away from him my joke sped
my line has receded too
so to Ryan's defence I flew

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Gharland supports tim crimson for mod. TC in ten-oh!

ha...happyhead.

The Bob Weir reference is priceless.

What does a fleeting hairline stop
Much worse things, you can't complain
You soon begin to miss your furry mop
Even the awkward stages of your mane

Follicular loss and his musical roots
Lackluster output and douche behavior should be waived
Height-increasing, white leather boots?
Can you imagine tapping the girl from "Saved"?


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memorable threads of 2010

Haha, Ghar, no offense man
For we all have our physical flaws, everyone across all the lands
But in the end we're all gorgeous, green and fresh
So I'll take away your Bobby Weir and give you Phil Lesh

Amy G, per chance, were you at the MSG shows?
You know that Further band where anything goes?
We had seats behind the stage, right behind the drums
So when the lights go down here Bobby comes
Smoking a huge joint, thinking he was alone
But there were 5,000 people behind the stage throne
They all started cheering, Bobby was caught red handed
No wonder he forgot the lyrics to El Paso and Dark Star crash landed

Here kids, I downloaded that 'Go Easy' and made it into an MP3


"Is it too soon after 9/11 to wear pleats?"

How's the book doing anyway (the real one) 'head?

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Gharland supports tim crimson for mod. TC in ten-oh!

Ghar, the book has done as well as it could
with limited distribution and an agent not so good
two reviews, one lukewarm and one horrendous
and two decent checks, small profit, so I'm not contentious
So it's on to the next one, about quarter way through
I like this one better and look forward to seeing it through
and if it doesn't land a major publisher and spread across the land
I'm still happy to publish it for my 136 fans

you guys should remind Ryan that sometimes it's ok to rhyme



"some of those people at alt-country.org are kinda stuck up i think"
-dinopasta1

Ryan peaked with Cold Roses. He is never coming back.. He loves the Grateful Dead, they kept truckin well past their days of writing inspired, beautiful songs.


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"I regret my submissions there before it became the site that it is" -ra
www.myspace.com/futurekingsrock

In fairness, "So Many Roads" and "Days Between" were two of the most soulful, inspired Dead songs ever.
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It doesn't appear to me that Easy Tiger and Cardinology are crap records... even though they are fairly derided at the good 'ole dot-org. But I think the bad aftertaste is the production. Listening to the songs on the avatar sessions or hearing them in a different arrangement (thanks nick) reveals the songs from the muck.

I think when you go from working independently to a group Ryan sort of lost his veto power. I've listened to the tracks on III/IV and there are things I like about them and things I don't - but these seem to be the last cardinal recordings and so perhaps the new solo stuff will be more independent and less collaborative. I'm hopeful.

But clearly, the song writing is still fairly strong on a number of Easy Tiger and Cardinology tracks that no right-minded fan should despair.

Agreed, Easy Tiger is NOT a bad album, the songs are actually very strong, its just that the production is appalling

all of the ET and Cardinology supporters are evaluating these albums not on their own respective merits, but as part and parcel of the ryan adams legend.

if there was no whiskeytown, no heartbreaker, no gold, etc... and the world knew no "ryan adams", then both ET and Cardinology would receive poor grades across the board. you are all defending these albums because you are a fan, plain and simple. this isn't a insult - it's actually quite noble.

but the same shit happens with musicians like neil young and bob dylan... fans still fawn over new releases from these guys, proclaiming each new album to be as good as the classics, yet the fact of the matter remains: 30 years from now when people are discussing young and dylan, no one is going to so much as utter the words "greendale" or "modern times".


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"I got caught masturbating to a National Geographic magazine... Not my finest hour. And I don't know who was more embarrassed... me or my dentist." - Anthony Jeselnik

with greendale you have a point - it was a concept album that did not work. Modern Times, however, is an excellent album.

But I do say this, Easy Tiger and Cardinology are not as big as the mistaken detours taken by both Dyland and Young in the 80's.

i don't dislike "modern times" at all. it has some decent tracks. but again, going back to my point... years from now, when your grandchildren and their friends are debating which of dylan's albums were his best, is anyone going to so much as even mention "modern times"???

the answer is no.

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"I got caught masturbating to a National Geographic magazine... Not my finest hour. And I don't know who was more embarrassed... me or my dentist." - Anthony Jeselnik

Sorry but the material on ET and Cardinology is just lazy and uninspired.

There are exceptions of course, and I've made the case that the best material culled from both albums (with better production) would result in a very good Ryan Adams album.

But as it stands neither of them are all that remarkable and it just sounds like he was phoning it in...

Dylan & Young have earned the right to put out whatever type of music they want at this point in their careers. I can't say that Ryan Adams has earned that right yet.

Young has proven he can go wildly off the path and come back in a big way. His early 90's output actually rivals his material from the 70's which is no small feat...

dudeman, you're right on two accounts: ET and cardinology are both "lazy and uninspired", and while dylan and young have earned free passes, RA has not.

the only part i would challenge there is how you said young has proven he can "come back in a big way" like he did in the 90's. i'm assuming you're talking about his "rockin in a free world" era. i totally agree that this was a good time for neil young music. but that was more than 20 years ago now! (Freedom; 1989) isn't that like saying, "hey, bob dylan still has it! hey recently came back with 'blood on the tracks'!"

so yeah, in 30 years people might mention "freedom" when talking about neil young's greatest albums, but the others that will appear in the same conversation will be "harvest", "everybody knows this is nowhere", "tonight's the night", "rust never sleeps", etc... but they won't be talking about "greendale" or "chrome dreams II".



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"I got caught masturbating to a National Geographic magazine... Not my finest hour. And I don't know who was more embarrassed... me or my dentist." - Anthony Jeselnik

in 2010 we believe that Dylan can put out whatever he wants... but that's our perspective. That wasn't the feeling in '65 when he plugged in, or in '79 to '89. I basically agree that Easy Tiger and Cardinology are not complete albums - that there are songs that aren't up to par... but I remain optimistic that the next album of new material (not ET session left-overs) will quiet the doubters. at least I hope so.

That hope must go a long way. There has been absolutely no indication that he's anywhere near being back on form. The only thing I can point to that gives the slightest glimmer of a chance is the fact that he played "Oh My Sweet Carolina" at that benefit last month. At least that shows he remembers those songs. Other than that...




"haha nope will smith" - chavli

"years from now, when your grandchildren and their friends are debating which of dylan's albums were his best, is anyone going to so much as even mention "modern times"

That is a ridiculous argument. The guy wrote and recorded some of the best material in all of popular music so of course people will talk about Mr. Tambourine Man and Gates of Eden first. That doesn't make Modern Times any less of a great album. And Dylan surely never got any passes on his weaker albums from critics or fans, just like Ryan doesn't get one. If anything, someone who wrote such amazing early material gets his newer stuff more scrutinized then a regular artist would.

I guess my point was that Neil Young was able to resurrect his career after releasing a series of spotty, uncharacteristic records (Dylan too), whereas Adams has yet to prove he can do the same thing. This is arguably his first legitimate rough patch as an artist and it remains to be seen if this is just a fluke or if the guy has really lost his shit.

I'm hoping its just that: a fluke, and that he needs to kind of purge himself of some of this ridiculous material to kind of get back to the stuff that matters...

Everyone thought Neil Young was washed up back in the late 80's and then he just went on to release one great album after another:

Freedom
Ragged Glory
Harvest Moon
Sleeps With Angels

That's not counting Eldorado (EP), Arc Weld (Live) and Mirror Ball (w/ Pearl Jam).

But again Ryan has a long way to go to prove he's in the same leauge as Young, or Dylan or any of the greats. Maybe he
really doesn't even deserve to be in the conversation. Time will tell...

that's it! Ryan is a prolific artist just like Neil Young. This is just ryan's late 80s washed up period. He has a whole new rebirth around the corner..



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www.myspace.com/futurekingsrock

no bullshit: i got this song a few days ago, and have attempted to listen to it three times, but each time i got distracted halfway through and clicked on a different song to play. not a good sign.

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